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Is that over eight years ago now, 7-8 years ago, we were go with years in the past. the brother of the then sitting vice president was employed for a private contract issue with the government of saudi arabia. in that dispute was over a hundred and dollars and when it was settled, how it was settled or would just go to award you numerous future contrasts. so what you think all the participants got? they all got a cut so at that time, the director of enforcement of the u.s. treasury department interviewed jim biden in his home. do you think average americans get that honor question what do you ...

Money and we still want you to fly. it's just not fair to them ultimately it has to be fair to the pilots. and then as the bottom line. >> shannon: a lot of what you say there is part of their complaints. in exhibit c, they said throughout the pandemic they continue to come to work and perform their duty. many had close contact with infected individuals while at work. if you have died. many more have not recovered well enough to fly. they say they were taking all the risks and keeping things going and yet they were getting shafted by the airlines. that's their argument. >> i agree completely w...

They've been waiting for 60 years for a president who lacks a commitment to nato, and they may have found one, which is technically dangerous. >> senator mitch mcconnell came out the day after the accident and said we're excited, and nato means something. russia needs to know that. extraordinary for a post-election statement, but given with what's said, understandable. >> the 28 countries of nato. many of them aren't paying their fair share. we're defending them, they should at least be paying what and contract. sits new around with enough folks in government, the people you're surrounded with...

>> is there a point at which he sits new around with enough folks in government, the people you're surrounded with, who explain this is more than a contract issue? >> i think the republicans in washington as well as the bipartisan consensus have always understood that nato is not a protection racket. it's based on common principles and a common view of freedom in the atlantic area. and i suspect that that message is going to come through loud and clear from people like senator mcconnell and others who have dealt with foreign policy for a long time. at the very least, we have to hope so, becaus...

This powder keg environment. >> do you think that the police union leaders then in new york are being tougher or more incendiary than they would otherwise be because of the contract negotiations, an issue separate from the policing policy questions? >> i think absolutely. i think if you combine the national attention but more specifically, locally in new york, the contract negotiations, the failure they see in negotiations, i think that really has spurred on this really venomous type of rhetoric and attack, yes, i do. >> and lou, you've been covering new york and these kinds of tensions in per...