Estimated the degree to which we've had problems in the system and certainly the contracting partners did not. >> and did hhs respond to the insurers' recommendation to delay the launch? >> sir, i can't -- i wasn't in the meeting. i don't know what occurred in the meeting and i don't know who they talked to. >> can you find out and answer that question for us? >> sure. i will get back to you. >> thank you. thank you, mr. chairman. >> mr. green. >> thank you, mr. chairman. madam secretary, thank you for taking time to be here today. i represent parts of east and north houston, harris downy, and...