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To be able to show that card to gain further access. i think that's the point he initially encountered the navy police officer. >>steve: he had a government access -- government contractor access card that was updated in july. so it was good. he could swipe it that way, be able to bypass security. but the question is how did he wind up with this government access card? i mean, he was in the navy reserve but he was kicked out for a couple of arrests. he was given a general discharge and a general discharge generally makes it harder to get a job in the civilian world. not so in this case. >> you...