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Years from the time the victim who came forward who was believed and started this prosecution until the time they put handcuffs on sandusky. i guess my point is there's still much more to come. >> of course. there's a lot more to come. why did it take three years? because of politics. because tom corbett was the attorney general and he was running for governor and he didn't want to alienate the penn state contribution base. we all know that. that to me is not speculation. every speculation that concerned people have had about this has come true. joe paterno did not care less that jerry sandusk...

Mr. senator brown has gotten money from wall street, goldman sachs, $60,500, barclays, $39,499, paulson & company, morgan stanley and others, and then when you look on the other side where elizabeth warren has received -- her campaign has raised $3.15 million, but most of them donations of $100 or less, many of them which is 96% of those that contributed and many of them from around the country, does this put the senator in the position he's in where he can't really fight those that are financing his campaign? >> well, i think that he, like most of the republicans, and frankly some of the demo...

Contribution base as well. we had 100,000 people come to our website, congressmanwithguts.com and make contributions that averaged $38. now you see the same phenomenon with elizabeth warren's campaign, and the good thing about that it's all clean money. she owes nothing to anybody but the voters and all the people contributing to her campaign and to my campaign understand that what they are getting for that is simply good government, not tax breaks, not bailouts, not special favors, not regulatory relief, but just good government, and it represents a whole new paradigm in american politics tha...