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bakhmut in ukraine. and the reason this matters, jake, is because the fight for bakhmut, as has become the case with much of the war in ukraine, has become a war of attrition that military and intelligence officials increasingly say is really likely to turn on access to artillery ammunition, which side is able to sustain its supply of artillery ammunition the longest. one senior western intelligence official that i spoke to earlier today said in bakhmut alone, the two sides are spending up to multiple thousands of rounds of ammunition a day, which is just staggering. so what north ko...

Back, which russia illegally annexed in 2014. what's the best way for the u.s. to help ukraine get crimea back into its country? >> provide longer-range artillery, provide a particular system that will allow the ukrainians to actually hit targets from ukrainian territory into -- well, crimea is ukrainian territory, but into heavily-guarded russian reinforced territory in ukraine. what i meant by that was if the russians don't control crimea, it makes it harder for them to control areas they control in the south and east of ukraine, other parts of ukraine in the donbas and in the south. >> evel...

They call understanding russia, cooperating with russia. and so i think he's dealing with a lot of members of his political party, as well as the german population who are very hesitant to go into a situation that they deem risky. the reality is, though, that if you don't stand up to vladimir putin, if you aren't strong in the face of this russian aggression, you are actually inviting vladimir putin to potentially put your national security at risk. so, unfortunately, it's a misunderstanding to think that you have to cooperate or show some sort of softness toward russia. it's quite the opposit...

Allies. tonight, shepherd smith traveled into the disputed territory into the heart of this crisis and joins us now, live from ukraine. >> reporter: martha, we took a 400 mile flight from here in kiev down to the heart of crimea. when we landed there had been troops there in recent days, russian troops. we saw none of. that local security forces with flags went into squares around, no russian troops. you have to go farther. we went to a naval institution and found russian soldiers had taken charge of it. they'd taken ukrainin soldiers' arms away.