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The actual shutdown, suggests that he and recognizes will take much of the blame. >> scott, you spend a lot of time on capitol hill. i want your perspective on what you saw unfold last night that, vote left open longer than most votes are and democrats mingling with republicans and republicans mingling with democrats, people talking to their own caucuses as well. it was a lesson in body language. what did you observe from lawmakers on capitol hill? >> i spent my last couple of days talking to democrats. they are saying we are not going to vote for any more funding measures until daca is dealt ...

Thing but clearly somebody has to do it. rob: nancy pelosi defending herself, touting herself as a great legislator going onto say that president trump went rogue with the iran deal and with his decision on health care, the president set to meet with mitch mcconnell. is there time to find out ways to cut off congress and do it himself. here chuck rocha a and alexandra. chuck, we will start with you. nancy pelosi sounded like donald trump taking some of the self-promotion to heart. >> rob, you're exactly right, but the thing about nancy pelosi and democrats for the most part in this town and i ...

Avery? >> yeah. >> yeah, that's for sure. i mean, look. the worst that we have right now is unadulterated hypocrisy. that's not a crime. the fact is that it becomes more complicated when flynn and his attorney try to sit down, whether it's congressional committees, whether it's the fbi because, unless he can implicate trump, he's got nothing. and he's facing a number of crimes. >> and in the tweet from the president on immunity, he's actually encouraging mike flynn should ask for immunity in that this is a witch hunt, excuse for big election loss by media and dems of historic proportions. rich...

Here, has proven to be pretty hard. republicans, as you said, control everything, and even decides among yourselves, despite the fact that you've promised for repealing obama care for the past three, four election cycles, it doesn't seem like you're close to getting there. >> we'll get there, i hope. if we don't, we'll pay a heavy price. so the bottom line is open democrats will help us. i remember voting for -- against obama care on christmas eve the year it passed. jammed down our throats. the best thing we can do is try to get democrats to help us. obama care, when we passed it, congress wa...

That have experimented in a different way an opportunity to follow those experiments. what works in arizona may not work in massachusetts, which got a pretty good program, as you know. first nice thing i've said about massachusetts in years. the people's republic of massachusetts, apologize, just a joke. apologize. so let's give the states the funds and let's let them do some experimentation as to what is best for those states. but there has to be underlying principle. we're not going to throw anybody off of health care to not be able to have the opportunity to ge it. as long as that fundament...