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It's customary to summarize interviews in memoranda rather than transcribe or tape them. is that accurate? >> yes, that's the standard course. that's how the fbi does it. you know, lawyers are control freaks. we like to control the flow of information. this way there's no record, even what the people who are interviewed is told is this is our recollection. this is the way we lawyers are going to cast what you say. this isn't a verbatim transcript. >> so in terms of the report from the public's standpoint, the credibility of the report, when the public can't examine the transcribing and make it...

Remembered. he felt as if he was undervalued in the administration. but aside from bob gates' hurt feel, i thought there were some revelations in the book that could be potentially damaging. you showed one, the revelation that both hillary clinton and president obama discussed in front of him their nakedly political positions on iraq. i think people are going to make something of that, and they have every right to. there was also a lot of talk from bob gates about how insular the white house was and how president obama chose to rely more on an inner circle of friends than experts in various de...

Cameras and let this all go away. >> i don't blame the the white house for not wanting to endorse his actions or ally themselves in any way. we frankly don't know what's going to happen to him. anyone who is spending that time that closely with the regime is putting themselves in danger. those people are enormously dangerous. >> loose cannon, lost soul when you saw that rant today. there is almost something sir particular call about satirical about it hillary clinton and john kerry been kept on a short leash. even the secretary of state hasn't been allowed to go out and freelance that much. th...

I'm sure i handled it very well. >> it seemed pretty out of control. >> i thought that was fairly tame. >> it was? >> who would want that job. >> and andrea, what do you think? are they making a mountain out of a mole hill. >> i don't think so. this was a theme a mo couple of months ago, led by ed henry and the only thing they got from the president was a picture of him golfing with tiger woods. the white house said we're going to be transparent and give you access and won't even let them take a picture. i'm not surprised they are cutting back the access for the reporters. things are not going...

Control and local issues at the state levels, not just the primary states. this is full contact politics. if you can't go into their arena, make your arguments, make strong arguments and, look, if they want to try and slice and dice, refute them with the facts. bill: so you don't have a problem with this, is that what you're saying? >> no, i think it's a foolish assumption, or a foolish proposal -- bill: i've got you. let me get tamara on the record for this as well. >> i think maybe there was a booking problem here, because i'm shocked that david webb and i actually agree on something. >> tha...