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>> it's got to -- it's got to sting. >> for now biden appears more serious than gore. in fact, one source tells me, it's more like 60/40 that he will run. meanwhile, clinton sent a not so subtle signal to gore and biden showing is may be too late to get in. she walked side by side with tom harkin who endorsed her. >> hillary is doing everything right. a much better and i think personally involved, if i might say that, campaign this year than it was in 2008. >> and let me bring back the panel. interesting backhanded compliment by tom harkin, gene robinson. how about that? >> it was interesting....

I know those people. he's like a puppet for those people. he's a puppet. those people will take negative ads on me and other people because they want him in there because they're going to control jeb bush. not only jeb, they're going to control hillary. she raised $16 million plus. they'll control whoever is in. the lobbyists and special interests and donors have -- >> so it will work in the trump administration, a ban? >> yeah. i would have a ban. you can't put a lifetime ban but you can certainly make it three, four years. >> what is a fair living wage? what's fair? >> i want to keep the min...

I know every one of them. a lobbyist called me yesterday, one of the biggest. he said, don, i want to give $5 million to your campaign. i said, i don't want it. because if he gives me $5 million, i guarantee he's going to call and say i represent such and such a country. >> president obama tried to put a ban on every lobbyist working in this country. would you agree with that? >> these guys come out and almost immediately go to work for a company and have power they shouldn't have. when jeb bush raises $114 million, i know those people that gave him the money. i used to be one of them. i gave ...

That it might be too late to get in. she walked side by side with tom harkin who endorsed her. >> hillary is doing everything right. a much better and i think personally involved, if i might say that, campaign this year than it was in 2008. >> and let me bring back the panel. interesting backhanded compliment by tom harkin, gene robinson. how about that? >> it was interesting. the whole thing -- first of all, the joke that hillary clinton made was pretty effective, right? we're talking -- >> to that room. a room full of activist democrats. >> it's hard to claim this is all just a partisan witc...

I don't plan on slowing down any time soon. stay strong. stay active with boost®. >> announcer: time now for "meet the press end game" brought to you by boeing. "end game" time and, of course, the panel is back. before i go, i got some new poll numbers i want to show you on the republican race. kimberly, i want to you ask about the hillary e-mail situation, the potential for biden jumping in. is this a good thing for the republican party or do you think actually this is going to help the democrats get their own enthusiasm in gear? >> look, i think it would be good for the democratic party t...