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0 tonight before dumping rain in tennessee and ohio river valleys tomorrow. there's flash flooding and mudslides along the way. we wish those people well and a quick recovery in a very difficult situation. thanks nor being with us today for "the story," august 30, 2021. the "the story" continues tomorrow. see you back here. >> neil: thank you, martha, very much. we're on top of two storms gripping the world right now. certainly our part with the flooding and damage and winds and still more flooding and damage and winds to come from hurricane ida, now tropical storm ida. also following what's g...

Believe it or not, they don't think the taliban is extreme enough. so, you know, ithink it is important to understand that while the taliban may be de facto taking over afghanistan, that doesn't mean they control that huge country from border to border. and they have by no means established authority. they may ultimately or in the short—term control kabul and the levers of power. in terms of where this goes, i think we just have to see. obviously, this horrific tale is changing day to day. i think that what is really going to determine it is is the taliban the same group that it was 20 years...

Jeffrey, at some point the taliban are going to insist that they are not just a de facto government, they are the legitimate government. how ready do you think the international community, not least the white house, would be to recognise them? two points here, one is let's understand this attack was not the taliban, it was isis k, as you noted. this fringe group of isis in afghanistan who has declared its enemy notjust the americans but also the taliban because, believe it or not, they don't think the taliban is extreme enough. so, you know, ithink it is important to understand that while the ...

And they have by no means established authority. they may ultimately or in the short—term control kabul and the levers of power. in terms of where this goes, i think we just have to see. obviously, this horrific tale is changing day to day. i think that what is really going to determine it is is the taliban the same group that it was 20 years ago? are they the hardline extremists who imposed just obscenely medieval punishments on people and forced women out of schools and into burqas? is that going to be reinstated or have they learnt? they need foreign money, they need foreign support and t...

Out of afghanistan, absolutely, but once americans are out, that that gives the impetus then to leave the afghan sivs that we haven't by august 31st behind. that's what we're concerned about. we're going to end up saying, we got all the americans out, i did a great job in doing that. in terms of the contingency, if the al ban decided to attack us, it would be a contingency. >> isn't an evac like this always going to be messy? they could have planned better, but do you acknowledge, especially when you've got the threat of isis now very real, very persistent, the taliban control kabul, the groun...