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In jail. they're saying when we had him on our watch list, it was 2015 and there was no evidence of any attack being planned so therefore they downgraded the supervision or the watch list that he was on. so this is causing a huge amount of questioning. is there a sort of midway between actually following every last person which they obviously cannot, or figuring out some kind of reversion back to the sort of old days of the control orders. in other words, people who are under suspicion for hate speech or belonging to rad dical group or even if they're not planning an attack, can they be put ba...

Radicalizaon a motivation of attaers like these. and that is a real problem. the second, which we don't know -- and more likely to to have occurred in manchester is communication between or amongst terrorists and that is to be encrypted. it's even a harder nut to crack in my view but also one that , t makes it very hard. i think that's some of the frustration that you heard prime minister may. i also expect that there will be renewed debate within the united kingdom for some other physical preventive measures that they've had in the past. sort of bringing back the control orders that the briti...

One thing we can look at, is using something called the terrorist prevention measure, we can beef that up, we used to have control orders but that individuals who were of interest to us could be restricted in who say saw some what they viewed on-line, and contacts with others, the orders would be deliberately shrined to ensure people who joined a genuine threat were not ableo associate with others who were bent on causing the more horrific acts. steve: i want to bring in there are aspect of this argument, a lot of people have been interested in here, the question of immigration and brexit, and...

Thursday and i'll be in play. secondly, you'll see a restoration of what our control orders in which terrorist suspects to the government government authorities do not have enough evidentiary status too caught are in a position to probation based environment where they are tagged with electronic ankle monitors and they have to report to the police station. i expect legislation will come in to reinvestigate that. judge jeanine: tom, what you're saying then is for those people who may be on a list or under the watchful eye of a cobra and my five or whatever the group is that now of the 3000 of t...

Controlled orders where you have to check in your authorities day by day. of course, we've seen people have gone off to syria despite the fact that they have been in these control orders and in france they don't always, unfortunately, work. and the numbers are really staggering. jean-charles was talking about secrecy. the other thing is communications. they are increasingly using encrypted apps and they are going dark. they are also doing innovative things like using video consoles and messaging with one another and it's very difficult for police officers who have no real idea of how these vid...