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They're talking to you, when they're talking to lobbyists, when they're talking to donors, it's a whole different world. >> are you saying that -- i'm trying to follow your logic. you're basically showing a parallel in that we're talking about the president of the united states saying one thing, and his press secretary sort of saying another, and a lawyer saying another, and that's just like the dysfunctional congress who says one thing to us on tv and another to the constituents? are you equating the two? >> the -- well, robbie had mentioned the control republicans have and the dysfunction ov...

That congress, at this stage, dysfunctional? >> congressional ratings -- congress was never popular but they are really not popular right now. the problem for the republicans they have promised to repeal the health care law. that can't happen until basically they have a new president. republicans could be overpromising a bit like democrats did on the stimulus. if republicans do win the house and senate they will have a narrow majority. that will mean a showdown with the white house. i think the president and vice president, they already have their plans, they know there lab lot more control re...