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everyone, and judge jeanine pirro along with richard fowler, jesse watters, katie pavlich, and greg gutfeld, it's 5:00 in new york city, and this is "the five." ♪ ♪ so let the debate trash talk begin, joe biden and donald trump are sharpening their attacks as they get ready to meet face to face for the cnn presidential debates three days from now and simulcast on fox news. the two candidates are using wildly different prep strategies, sleepy joe is still holding up at summer camp david, the big guy surrounding himself with an army of advisors. a staggering 16 people are helping o...

Holier than now. he was the meanest candidate on stage like him obviously clearl rattled by thes yourth importan vivek ramaswamy coming in there and dominating the debatviveswa. so i think mike pence we need t consider what he is even in thi siracede. a couple of other points.s i thinrak nikki haley had a muc better night than a lot of people were expectin g.di she did herself a d favor. tim scott did not have the kind of breakthrough heind really ne. but asa hutchinson, we have to ask, what is he doing on the stage? what a waste of space. and, by the way, a race of a should have been there fo...

Kocouncils and city governments, that try to make illegal activity legal. trey: speaking of two different justice systems, i think that merrick garland was before your judiciary committee, you asked him whether or not there are two different justice systems for so-called protesters, what prompted you to want to have that conve conversation with the attorney general. >> the attorney general comes to us for appropriate over site, to have him under under oath and ask him about two te tiers are justice, they are investigating differently, you look at fact there are one set of rules for conservativ...

Johnson wants nothing to do with these issues. he wants to talk about the economy, inflation, joe biden's agenda, not even talking about the abortion ruling that came down last week. that is what he says will get him another term in office. >> joining us now chief analyst jeffrey toobin, laura coates, david griffin, gloria borger. i want to get your opinion on a conve conversation. >> i had a prooifrt conversation with pat cipollone on the 3rd or the 4th, that pat was concerned it would look like we were obstructing justice or obstructing the electoral college count. i apologize for probably n...