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>> isn't it interesting, though, if you shoot a black kid or black guy you don't go away so much? >> that's not the statement -- >> yeah, yeah -- >> it is -- >> the risks go down. >> it's affecting the african american community -- >> whites -- of the reverse is very small. so that's something to consider, as well. we want to talk more about this coming up. danny mentioned this case of a woman who shot in the air and tried to use stand your ground. we'll talk about her coming up. we'll be right back. a lot more ahead. i missed a payment. aw, shoot. shoot! this is bad. no! we're good! this is y...

Looking at the jury who it was and i was right. it's just there's body language. >> interesting. >> you get to know these people in this weird non-verbal way. >> interesting. jeffrey toobin, mark geragos. president obama has been silent. we'll look at the line he walks on issue and justice. la's known definitely for its traffic, congestion, for it's smog. but there are a lot of people that do ride the bus. and now that the busses are running on natural gas, they don't throw out as much pollution to the earth. so i feel good. i feel like i'm doing my part to help out the environment.

>> you know, we can speculate all over the place on this case and i understand that the social aspect of this, our bottom line is we have a woman in prison for 20 years. there are errors in her trial and we want to correct the imperfections and what went wrong. >> mark, you talked a lot about what went wrong is this an example -- >> this is a perfect example. bruce, i don't want to get in the way of this and affect your appeal and i know you're trying to be as politically as correct as you can. if this was a pretty white woman you wouldn't see 20 years, you wouldn't see it. what we've been tal...

Them. >> there is nothing improper about jurors trying to influence each other or changing their minds. that's why they call it deliberation. you can have a system where everybody presses a button and majority vote. you know, the interaction -- >> how often is it that there is one holdout. at the end she said there is one person left that wanted a charge and essentially they sort of wore her down in her opinion. >> it's a lot. it's frequent. i see it a lot. i can think of a case in riverside county where i tried that case twice and it was a hung jury both times, and we were set to do it the th...

Solving that racial dynamic and smoothing out that racial legacy locally. and he -- he can talk until he's blue in the face. he can't solve that not in five years, not in eight years, whatever. >> cornell, by talking about it, while it might satisfy some who want to, you know, see the president out in front on these issues, it also alienates a lot of people that feel he's not the president for everybody, i suppose. you're dammed if you do and dammed if you don't. >> i think race is to culture what social security is to politics. it a third rail. you touch it at your own risk. here is the probl...