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>> i'm getting confused. there are too many moving parts. willie, you talk, talk. >> talk, that's a good talk. willie talk. let's start talking with you, senator brown. we were willing to that conversation off of what newt gingrich said talking about the way people in congress, people in the media, perhaps, don't grasp the reality of what's happening in real people's lives. and you were referring to it back to the payroll tax issue. >> when you figure the payroll tax cut comes out to 67 -- actually about $100 a month for a family in this country, that to members of congress and those that sit ...

Clinton's favor. so he's going to try to move the conversation off of ground like what manu, jim and evan just outlined, which is nothing that happened today, with the exception of the brazile story, but none of that as relates to the russia investigation is any good at all for donald trump. whether or not as evan noted, jared kushner not a target of the investigation according to sources, but still moving it closer to a person who can't simply be dismissed, right. that's been trump as m.o., oh, carter page, don't really know. mike flynn, lied to the vice president. paul manafort, he was just ...