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Prisoners, because he's beating them all up. >> you know what, you needed to be removed, jonathan. and they removed you. >> you need to listen to the russian security -- >> a surprising pro-gru take from mika this morning. >> reporter: but, yeah, willie, but jonathan lemire, back in one piece. >> that's great. washington anchor for bbc world news america, katty kay is with us. >> when i say willie, that's when we let willie talk. willie, talk. >> let's be honest, our viewers would rather see katty anyway. when jonathan described dipping his shoulder into five russian security officers, he wasn...

Trip as commander in chief. the eight-day tour culminated with a face-to-face talk with president putin. it is clear, however, that divisions remain on issues such as human rights and cyber warfare. russia denied recent attacks on the united states and instead accused the u.s. of being the largest cyber aggressor. the issue of trust also came up, when putin was asked if he trusted joe biden, he said there was some, quote, some specter of trust. here's how biden answered that question. >> this is not about trust. this is about self-interest and verification of self-interest. that's what it's ab...

>> i'm getting confused. there are too many moving parts. willie, you talk, talk. >> talk, that's a good talk. willie talk. let's start talking with you, senator brown. we were willing to that conversation off of what newt gingrich said talking about the way people in congress, people in the media, perhaps, don't grasp the reality of what's happening in real people's lives. and you were referring to it back to the payroll tax issue. >> when you figure the payroll tax cut comes out to 67 -- actually about $100 a month for a family in this country, that to members of congress and those that sit ...