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With some of the consequences of having to defend nato allies and really explaining to them that this is the cost of freedom. so the idea here at the white house, and when i talk to white house officials, is really that they are one, trying to make sure that they game out every sort of possibility that they can about what happens with russia, but two, trying to figure out how to impact energy prices here. it's a very complex thing to do. as i said, there were already sort of reserves released. so there is, of course, a domestic energy supply here at home. but i think it is really something tha...

Talks about, you know, we're going to need them as a friend, we need them for help. listen, they had 18 years to help us on counterterrorism and they've done nothing. i don't really understand what he thinks he's going to get from mr. putin. i tell you, mr. putin knows who's an enemy and who's not. he considers the united states his main enemy. >> all right. we are going to pick this conversation up in a second but we're following breaking news in california where police have confirmed an active shooting at the youtube headquarters in san bruno, california. nbc's joe fryer joins us now. joe, w...

Purposefully, we still don't know for sure, talked to kislyak about what was happening with -- what was going on with isis and the laptops, they did not give him source and means. the intelligence community. there is still some friction there. why is he not getting information? the friction is because maybe he's not able to handle it. >> the conversation about leaks is an important one and we've had it many times, just as we have tonight. just to sum this conversation up, though, i mean this information now has leaked out, it is there. matt, how significant is it that jared kushner is now in t...

This point or something that ramps up enthusiasm against clinton and decreases enthusiasm for her among democrats. >> we learned things through wikileaks about how concerned some clinton's aids were of the story. at one point, robby mook, the campaign manager says did you have any idea of the depth of the story. i am sorry, was that mook? that was podesta. >> forgive me, that was mook. we were told that everything is taken care of. i just bring this up because that's the conversation up until a couple of hours ago about these wikileaks and now we got this story and is the clinton campaign in p...

Low-key conversation up until the time that the officer drew his weapon. it exploded in violence and there were no indicators before that. there were no raised voices no stress. it was being handled fairly low key and then all of a sudden there was an explosion. i think every time you introduce new technology into a field you learn things and we're learning things here that need to be addressed by police training and policy as we move forward. >> i do have a question about police training. this was a university of cincinnati police officer. is he trained in the exact same way as your local pol...