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duress and that hamas has provided no evidence for that claim that these two men were killed in israeli air strikes, but clearly deeply upsetting for all the families concerned. israel says more than 100 hostages are still being held by hamas. and there is no sign, as yet, that negotiations to free them are making any progress. let's go live to oliver mcternan, director of forward thinking, who has worked in hostage negotiation for over 20 years. he played a key role in the negotiations surrounding the release of the israeli soldier gilad shalit, held hostage by hamas for five years....

Right states. So at least politically right now it seems to be a stalemate in terms right now it seems to be a stalemate in terms of right now it seems to be a stalemate in terms of getting the israelis to move in terms of getting the israelis to move in in terms of getting the israelis to move in response to us pressure. I think move in response to us pressure. Think we will move in response to us pressure. I think we will concern people in washington, amanda, is it might harden the resolve injerusalem, it might intensify the fighting, this but the point that have to be made is that no hostag...

And although there is clearly signals that pay is not on the agenda, i think many will be hoping that the conversation does turn to pay as we head to the report, this is a dispute that also extends beyond pay to working conditions and staffing crisis which underpins patient safety and so, i guess that's what were all hoping for and that's what were all hoping for and that the conversation will in fact turn towards pay and there will be some form of constructive engagement through that dialogue. t’m some form of constructive engagement through that dialogue.— through that dialogue. i'm sure...

A much stronger subject to talk about. >> i tend to think if there's real news from the mueller report and that they're obviously at some point and the house becomes an impeachment inquiry, that's going to penetrate throughout the country and the washington conversation will, in fact, travel beyond the beltway. i think right now we're just not there yet because, let's be honest, there's been a barrage of news and information about everything trump and mueller, various indictments and, you know, leaks. but there's not been a sort of major step like it -- like the opening of impeachment articles...

The country to be president of the united states than hillary clinton. that is something that's going to be a huge advantage for her as time goes on. >> i'm going to leave the conversation will. we will watch and see. for more on the clinton campaign, a bit in crisis this week, i was joined by a man who knows a thing or two about running for president himself, california governor, jerry brown. >> you were here in watch washington in march, right when the kerfuffle with hillary clinton and the e-mails was happening. somebody asked you if this was going to -- an issue that would just go away. yo...