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Conversation a member of the house intelligence committee, democratic congressman shaean patrick maloney. good to have you with us. it's amazing how the process of perjury refreshes one's recollection. on one hand this sort of just confirms everything we've heard from a series of other witnesses. on the other hand as joe and david point out, this is someone who was a political appointee who gave a bunch of money to the president's political campaign who effectively has flipped here. what's the significance of this testimony? >> apparently a million dollars was enough for this ambassadorship, h...

>> we are happy to be joined from capitol hill from u.s. congresswoman jackie spear, a veteran-term democrat in the bay area in california and importantly for our conversation a member of the house intelligence committee. congresswoman, nbc news reported that hope hicks was scheduled to appear before your committee this week. we have since reported that her appearance has been delayed. is it at all linked with steve bannon and potentially another bannon o peerns as another part of that question, what would you like to know from hope hicks? >> first of all, i can't confirm whether or not hope h...

Himes, democrat of connecticut and important to this conversation a member of the house intelligence committee. congressman himes, a very basic question to you is how do you now proceed with this split between parties within your own committee and was the apology from your chairman enough for you today? >> well, the apology itself really can't possibly repair the damage that was done by this bizarre maneuver that chairman nunes did yesterday. i mean, you know, by taking material, not even sharing it with the committee or the committee staff to the white house -- and mind you, this is material ...

That you would submit to a grand jury at the beginning of an investigation. >> with us tonight live from washington congressman jim himes, democrat of connecticut and important to this conversation a member of the house intelligence committee. congressman himes, a very basic question to you is how do you now proceed with this split between parties within your own committee and was the apology from your chairman enough for you today? >> well, the apology itself really can't possibly repair the damage that was done by this bizarre maneuver that chairm nunes did yesterday. i mean, you know, by ta...