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Tribal, you know, is the outcome of all this russia investigation, the congressional things, preordained. republicans are going to rally around the president no matter what is this. >> i have given a lot of thought to that and that's a good question. i don't think we've taken a step back and looked at the bigger picture on that. i think you're right. no matter what the outcome of this is, even if president trump were to be dragged into this somehow, he's still going to have support. i think it's going to be very hard for republicans when it comes to the political matter, if they were ever put ...

Arrest the perpetrator, try him, convict him, put imin jail after a trial. that's not what happened in benghazi. it was a terrorist act of war against the united states. we should be following the war paradigm which for these kinds of terrorists means we get to put them in guantanamo bay. i don't understand how the decision was made. i'm very surprised by it. because the argument for quite some time has been that killing these terrorists with drone strikes or other means really sacrifices the possibility of intensive interrogation that may lead to the apprehension of other terrorists and the p...

Concerns about the iran nuclear deal? >> no. >> i did not. what i did do or attempt to do since i met with all of his intelligence leaders was to engage them on deepening our partnership which is already quite deep in monitoring compliance. but the prime minister, as everyone knows, feels very very strongly about this deal and hess not very happy about it. >> let me just wrap this up and ask you about convicted spy jonathan pollard who is about to be up for parole. how do people in the intelligence community including those i know very well who helped convict him, who helped track him down how...

Correct? >> kids, don't take drugs. bring them up here and give them to me [ laughter ] >> sorry, robyn, go ahead. >> yesterday he made this very so somber apology yesterday saying this will never happen again. i've made mistakes. i want to move on. i take this seriously. i was elected to do this job. i'm going to do this job. he appeared tearful. today the media was watching him and he blew everyone a kiss. that made a lot of traction on twitter, too. it seemed a little in contrast to what he'd been saying yesterday. >> robyn, the only way to get him out is to charge him, convict him, et cete...

I've made mistakes. i want to move on. i take this seriously. i was elected to do this job. i'm going to do this job. he appeared tearful. today the media was watching him and he blew everyone a kiss. that made a lot of traction on twitter, too. it seemed a little in contrast to what he'd been saying yesterday. >> robyn, the only way to get him out is to charge him, convict him, et cetera. do you think he'll be charged? do you think the authorities will do that? >> there's a lot of wiretaps against him, correct? >> right. so after the story about the video we reported on the story about the vi...