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The market moved based on promises. >> the tax reform, that's the one they are looking for. infrastructure is good for a lot of people, but they want to repatriate money, and health was not the thing the market was looking at it, and the great dealmaker is stepping in it every few days, and they are saying he promised good stuff and now it doesn't look like somehings may not happen, and it might happen but might not, and we are seeing a little unevenness on the market today, and it's down today but not much. a number of people, including goldman sachs saying cool it for a little bit, and maybe...

Make the president, make his push for climate change to address some of the ravages about the bad guys, the capitalism, he didn't say that, just the wall street guys that some say overdo it, that this is the guy you want in your corner to make that kiss. >> well, certainly. remember the president's finishing out his term. he's got a year and a bit to go and it's difficult to generate enthusiasm and momentum in your final months. so you look for opportunities like this, although we don't really know yet what the pope is going to say when he addresses congress, for example. let's see whether he ...

When outside the white house or in public forums that are not quite as protected as they would be within a compound. the same with pope john paul ii. he wasn't in the vatican, he was outside but it is when he least expected it. how do you gird for things you can't control because the crowds are so big? >> well, what you do is you put as many law enforcement officers, police officers, as possible in an area and new york will have thousands of officers assigned just as philadelphia and washington will. you hope that that presence will curtail any sort of action. >> how do you separate them from ...

Forth, who am i going to appeal to. >> that was the rap against governor walker. he just was not ready for the bright lights of the scrutiny about how do you feel. >> i hope he will be. some of them are like -- let me try to get you. >> these are two establishment figures, if you think about it. governor walker, governor perry with accomplished records, consequential records as governors, they're out. you ever think being in, experience as a governor doesn't count? >> the one time i got to speak in one gulp of air at the demolition derby, i pointed to the plane behind me and said at the end of...

Are up. >> taking a big jump. central park, times square. do you ever look at any of these developments and say i should run for mayor? >> well, i have no plans to run for elected office. but it certainly is an honor to be talked about in that regard. >> any regrets that you didn't run last time? >> not really. timing just wasn't right. the support, the total support wasn't there. i kind of looked at it late in the game. if you're going to do it, you got to get in pretty early. >> it's not that late now. so you're considering? >> right now i have no plans to do that. >> okay. rick kelly, forme...