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You don't have aplan for the nhs. the second thing we've got to do is to sort out social care. i think in november there were over 400,000 cases where people were able to be discharged from hospital into the community but couldn't because the care home wouldn't take them or community settings and support wasn't there. so you've got to deal with the late discharges. and the third is, in terms of the private sector capacity, as the last labour government showed, using the private sector to bring down nhs waiting lists is effective, its popular with patients, but it comes at a cost. so no doubt t...

Where we'll end up having to be. i think there are three things at the forefront of my mind in terms of bringing down waiting lists. first is dealing with the essential workforce challenge. we went into the pandemic with the nhs with 100,000 staffing vacancies, 112,000 in social care. so, without a workforce strategy, you don't have aplan for the nhs. the second thing we've got to do is to sort out social care. i think in november there were over 400,000 cases where people were able to be discharged from hospital into the community but couldn't because the care home wouldn't take them or commu...

Ratchet up waiting lists, and labour governments have to sort them out. and you're right, that's exactly where we'll end up having to be. i think there are three things at the forefront of my mind in terms of bringing down waiting lists. first is dealing with the essential workforce challenge. we went into the pandemic with the nhs with 100,000 staffing vacancies, 112,000 in social care, so without a workforce strategy, you don't have a plan for the nhs. the second thing we've got to do is to sort out social care. i think in november, there were over 400,000 cases where people were able to be ...

Temporary boost with catholics. a quarter of the population of the united states is catholic. while you could consider all protestants together and of course, they greatly outnumber catholics, if you look at individual protestant denominations, catholics greatly outnumber every single protestant denomination. i suppose there could be a little boost there. the president's looking for support wherever he can find it with a republican congress. i don't think whatever the pope says about climate change is going to push congress into passing anything in that particular area. so you know, yes, you m...

Are up. >> taking a big jump. central park, times square. do you ever look at any of these developments and say i should run for mayor? >> well, i have no plans to run for elected office. but it certainly is an honor to be talked about in that regard. >> any regrets that you didn't run last time? >> not really. timing just wasn't right. the support, the total support wasn't there. i kind of looked at it late in the game. if you're going to do it, you got to get in pretty early. >> it's not that late now. so you're considering? >> right now i have no plans to do that. >> okay. rick kelly, forme...