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A day. >> yeah. >> how do you -- this is what you do. you have a lot of them. you were small, now you're big and well-known. how did you keep people? >> a lot was ensuring job satisfaction. so much isn't monetary. people that work for charities, they're not getting paid well but they care about what they do. if they're not shaping the mission of the company, in some cases we put them on really cool projects, let them do what they were really interested in doing and pioneer cutting-edge stuff that we benefited from having these guys create for us. >> when you have a startup and you have so much...

And see -- you work in the technology world. let's talk about engineers who are getting head hunted 16 times a day. so how do you -- this is what you do. you have a lot of them. you were small, but now big and well known. how did you keep people? >> a lot of it in the early days was ensuring job satisfaction and, you know, so much of it isn't monetary. think about, like, people that work for charities, they're not getting paid well but they care about what they do. if they're not shaping the mission of the company, in some cases we put them on really cool projects. let them do what they're rea...