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About where his cooperation stands. he's telling them what he's telling the special counsel. feeding information he might be figuring out the special counsel is looking at. are they talking pardons. >> why would he be talking with someone in the white house feeding information to somebody in the white house if he's not guaranteed there will be pardon? >> there's another dimension in which the two cases come together which is about how recent the investigation is. the manafort says the manafort filings says manafort was in touch with people in the white house in 2018. the cohen filing says that...

>> he's giving them information about where his cooperation stands. he's telling them what he's telling the special counsel. feeding information he might be figuring out the special counsel is looking at. are they talking pardons. >> why would he be talking with someone in the white house feeding information to somebody in the white house if he's not guaranteed there will be pardon? >> there's another dimension in which the two cases come together which is about how recent the investigation is. the manafort says the manafort filings says manafort was in touch with people in the white house in ...

Shimon, what can we learn from the filing today? >> one of the most important things we are going to learn is whether or not the mueller team consider what is michael flynn did substantial. are they going to say he provided substantial assistance. where his cooperation stands and in doing so, what michael flynn is hoping for is no jail time. he is facing potentially some jail time and the point of his cooperation was to avoid jail time. as you said, we are going to learn exactly what michael flynn did here in his communications with russians and other folks surrounding the campaign and the tra...