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Some of the disagreements here are about just how much of -- or what kind of a threat is china and what should be the approach. the approach if we go back 10, 15 years the idea was cooperation work. that has changed. not all the nations have gone along with that. not all the nations see china as the same apocalyptic new cold world kind of terms. >> the french president, emmanuel macron, has called for a measure of independence in europe's position vis-a-vis china. they don't just want to follow what the u.s. says and does with respect to china. >> right, exactly. there may be this way of appro...

Los angeles is getting green and chicago's getting an infrastructure back because republicans and democrats are working together to get it. they didn't check their brains at the door, they didn't stop disagreeing, but their purpose was to get something done. now, why is this true? why does cooperation work better than constant conflict? because nobody's right all the time and a broken clock is right twice a day. every one of us...: every one of us and every one of them -- we're compelled to spend our fleeting lives between those extremes, knowing we are never going to right all the time and ho...

Los angeles is getting green and chicago's getting an infrastructure back because republicans and democrats are working together to get it. they didn't check their brains at the door, they didn't stop disagreeing, but their purpose was to get something done. now, why is this true? why does cooperation work better than constant conflict? because nobody's right all the time and a broken clock is right twice a day. every one of us...: every one of us and every one of them -- we're compelled to spend our fleeting lives between those extremes, knowing we are never going to right all the time and ho...

Interesting news coverage for brian's ratings. and one of the reasons i really respect nbc news is they're doing things like this on the news. they're trying to educate us about what works. and i'm just telling you, they're -- and some people were saying, i wonder how much market share he's giving up by telling us a happy story, with actually useful information. cooperation works better than conflict, in the real world. and we need victories in the real world. you look at all these schools that are working, definable cultures of cooperation work better. that's the first thing. the second thing...

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