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P-2 program that you'll hear about, which we'll talk about, about refugees which also falls under that, which is also assisting in other lanes, when sivs, that program comes to an end like it did in iraq, they qualify for p-2s. biden actually just institu havd the u.s., been allies, but also have credible fear of reprisal when now the government has fallen to the taliban, and you're saying that even years ago, that miller was sort of really focused on shrinking and getting rid of the category, right? like essentially deconstructing it so you couldn't use it as a category to get people in. >> y...

Afghan people are now eligible to get special access to leave the country? because john kirby notes that they've expanded what is called p-2, a different category, not just translators who say worked for the military, but looking here, people who worked for u.s. contractors, people who worked for u.s. government funded programs, et cetera. could you explain how big that program is and -- >> yeah. well, i think it is a good question because what we don't know is exactly how the biden administration is determining who they're flying out right now. because initially they said that these afterghan...

American journalism outlets. you're looking at safely well over 100,000 people. is there any safe passage for them or the taliban layoff -- >> that's what i was hoping to hear from our commander in chief yesterday. how long will we hold this air bridge? are we going to establish corridors? the state department has to stop giving people death sentences over typos and paperwork and the wrong forms filled out. they expanded the program, it's called p-1 and p-2. if you weren't necessarily an interpreter but you fit all those other categories, you stood for democracy and freedom publicly and agains...

For some time. but that doesn't -- they still have the very real hurdle of being able to get themselves out of the country. not all of these individuals are going to be based in kabul. many of them are spread throughout the country. and with the taliban offensive that swept through so much of the country and with fewer and fewer flights, it will be very difficult for people to get to kabul and get themselves out. if they can afford the flight and then afford to put themselves up in a third country for a year or more while they await the process of actually being eligible and getting their p-2....

Changes mean? how will they impact the lives of afghans? how many are we talking about here? >> so state department officials are saying thousands, tens of thousands, even more than that who are potentially eligible for this p-2. but as you mentioned, this is very different than the special immigrant visa program that we heard so much about in recent weeks. it mainly -- the biggest difference is these people will have to get themselves and their families out of afghanistan on their own and then begin the process of potentially becoming eligible for the p-2. so what this does allow though is pe...