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Say or do. i think general kelly when he took the job, i think general mattis, secretary tillerson understand they -- this is an unguided missile. any effort that they made wouldn't be successful. the president wouldn't listen to them. this is his secret sauce, the way he got elected and the way he disrupts to an advantage in the negotiations. we had a classic example that he felt this inflammatory rhetoric would put north korea on the back foot, make the chinese think he was really serious, et cetera. so, you know, look, the consequences of this i think he's ended up frightening allies more t...

Hostilities with north korea, but we will respond accordingly. now, that seems to fly in the face of comments by national security adviser mcmaster who said the government has told the military to prepare for the option of a preventive attack, even though officials say that could have catastrophic consequences. >> phil, what do you think of this whole good cop/bad cop routine. >> well, you talk about it beforehand to determine who plays which role. we know the president didn't have that conversation because his comments were improvised so if it's good cop/bad cop, how did we plan before the pr...

Actress to the president but at the end of the day, absolutely nothing can control donald trump or what he says. >> david ignatius, let me ask you to weigh in. we had a debate on this show as this story was breaking and i asked general mccaffrey if he thought there was some is strategy behind all this. he said unequivocally, absolutely not. you wrote though about the question about what impact it might have on china. just weigh in for us on the statement because we're happy to have you today and that news broke in our hour yesterday. but also on the consequences on what the world hears when th...

Statement from secretary mattis just moments ago where he said that north korea should consider any actions, cease any actions that would lead to the end of its regime and destruction of its people and basically the u.s. can overpower north korea with its nuclear force, kind of shores up with what the president was saying, that the u.s.'s position to take out north korea completely if it chooses to act against the u.s. i think it is all the calibration of good cop/bad cop after the president's original statement. >> jon: there are many members of congress who are nervous about what the preside...

Exactly right. we are seeing some bluster from the president and we are not seeing a concerted effort to think through how would we deter a nuclear north korea with the ability to hit the u.s. without having to go to war which frankly means we have lost. which means we end up with tens of millions of casualties on the korean peninsula and the destruction of that area as we know it. >> it a ea grim picture you paint. but pick a side, general mccaffrey said there was no strategy, matt dowd said that there was no strategy and others think speaking jong un's language is a bit of strategiry. do you...