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Don't have pistol permits or hunting licenses, when people buy ammunition. plus, when they buy more than a thousand rounds there ought to be a report of it to state and local law authorities. because that is a lot of ammunition. that is a lot of bullets like the ones that were used in newtown, and obviously underlying a lot of what is being done on this issue is the seismic shift. really, the very important change that is taking place in public opinion and in the political landscape. and i hope we can sustain this momentum. >> senator, i'm so glad to hear you talking about ammunition. when i w...

Closing the gun show loophole. you mentioned the alleged shooter had a magazine that would hold 100 rounds of ammunition for this essentially machine gun. if it hadn't jammed, we'd probably be looking at far more carnage. cop killer bullets. most nra members as well as most americans don't think that those ought to be freely available to buy like tic-tacs. i think americans have gotten a little numb to this. and after a week or two we sort of move on. all of us have a stake in making sure we deal with this realistically. >> but why does congress move on? how do we break this? how do we end thi...

Deal with the simple common sense things like the cop killer bullets. the gun show loophole. start a little progression of progress and maybe, just maybe, other pieces will fall in place. it's not acceptable to ignore it and walk away. and god forbid we accept this as the established order of things. this doesn't happen in any other civilized country. >> congressman blumenauer, thank you for speaking up on this and give you your props. you would win this today for speaking out. thanks for your time tonight. >> my pleasure. thanks for talking about it. ahead, coming up, elizabeth warren on ta...

Loaded with so-called cop killer bullets. >> that's the terms he used. >> and what kind of heartburn does that give you, knowing he could be coming in once again armed? >> well, we're assuming that most criminals coming in here armed. we were prepared then to do what we had to do if the threat presented itself. if it does tonight, we'll do what we have to do. >> he's coming in right now. >> rusty comes back to do this demonstration. and we're all a little tense because of this fear on the part of the investigators that he might be armed. >> there's a gun right there. when you zoom in the camer...

So we did the best we could with what we had there that day and we had been there the -- 110 times since 1972. it got to be a routine, frankly. >> too routine. >> too routine, right. >> dr. giordano, the place where the bullet was lodged, it ricocheted off the door, the car door and it was a devastator bullet. one of those so-called cop killer bullets. we knowflicted on jim brady here yesterday and tim mccarthy, the other agent, the police officer. but what did you find when you tried to operate and looked for the bullet? how close was it to being fatal? >> dr. aaron did the thorocotomy lookin...