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Them. good and bad and in between there but for the grace of god goes i. so far they said nasty things and they shouldn't stopped responding to calls. things have been moving in the right direction and think you have to separate the theater which is noise from the signal. >> are you at all concerned that it may get to the level where it's not just theatrics? >> there is always a chance of that. cops feel under political pressure are more likely to back off and let things happen. worry less about where the numbers are going and to push back. up until now, we had a lot of drama around this. and ...

Enforcement strategies. you can have effectivefect uf, you know, law enforcement across this nation and still preserve and protect the sanctity of the justice system. and whenever you find that there is a gap or a lack of justice, then people have an obligation to demand for it. and demand transparency. and, as they're doing right now, demand reform. let's get back to center. and find out how we can really meld and blend these concepts so people understand these aren't mutually exclusive. >> i just wish we could face these issues that saying cops that are racist isn't going to solve the racial...