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Ptsd? that's not how it works. everybody has stress in their life. yeah, do we have some more than other when we were overseas? absolutely. was he in the sand box? yeah locked up in the armory? never saw a combat. bottom line is he was an angry drunk. that's what came out. he'd get drunk get high, do something bad, cops show up say i was a veteran have ptsd throw him in the mental hospital, be out doing dope, getting drugs, getting angry. and he wore that out. and that's what the d.a. pointed out. at the very end of it when, i mean, i give the defense credit. i mean, those guys they worked the...

Ptsd, that he was insane at the time. that is not what the jury decided. what do you think about the fact that that is what he claimed? >> well, that was garbage. first of all having ptsd is not a straight line to commit murder it's not a straight line to do anything breaking the law. if it is you basically saying if i cop to having ptsd i can slap anybody around i want and i can play i'm a veteran and have ptsd? that's not how it works. everybody has stress in their life. yeah, do we have some more than other when we were overseas? absolutely. was he in the sand box? yeah locked up in the arm...

Could have done this because of ptsd, that he was insane at the time. that is not what the jury decided. what do you think about the fact that that is what he claimed? >> well, that was garbage. first of all having ptsd is not a straight line to commit murder it's not a straight line to do anything breaking the law. if it is you basically saying if i cop to having ptsd i can slap anybody around i want and i can play i'm a veteran and have ptsd? that's not how it works. everybody has stress in their life. yeah, do we have some more than other when we were overseas? absolutely. was he in the san...