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What she's saying and core argument is i don't believe the government can be an engine for good, and then you have joe biden saying, well, actually it can and saying not only in word but in deed. because it's not just that he's using her to view this to talk about economic investments that have been made in places that are deep, deep red. >> yeah, look, most americans realize today that we are coming off a global pandemic that nearly crippled the economy. we are dealing with inflation and people are insecure about their personal earnings and the future of the economy for their kids. what joe b...

What are the political stakes of this hearing? >> we are only a few minutes in, six hours, over six hours, these witnesses are going to field a lot of questions from republicans and democrats were trying to grapple with this idea that these claims that the justice department politicized and gave preferential treatment to hunter biden in this investigation and so far we've heard these witnesses reiterate what they've told lawmakers already, look, feir vantage point, the justice department slow walked this investigation. that they were recom felony charges and those did not ultimately g brought,...

There is a long way to go. >> it strikes me, jen, that the bidens reelect message, right out of the gate, what about freedom. more freedom, not less. one party giving writes, another party taking them away. freedom was supposed to be ron desantis's core argument, keeps bragging about florida as a bastion of freedom, unless you're a pregnant woman, a teacher. has he already ceded the freedom frame, which he wanted to be his tibetan. >> well, i think, in part, the biden team, my old colleagues over there, in the campaign, are trying to seize the freedom frame from republicans. it has long been t...

Because i'm the only one who has is both true and unprovable. and so for republicans, they're trying to figure that out. they certainly like where his poll numbers are want to keep them there. but the question then is also who they have that's going against donald trump. so with biden's core argument, i can beat trump because i've beaten trump if the nominee is trump well, republicans are still concerned, regardless of where trump is in the polls right now in the primary valencia one of the weaknesses that keeps coming up in polls, when you ask americans is that issues h, and what he has said ...

Desantis, that he is certainly not out front and center doing the defending, and this does put him in a bit of a funn spot given that his core argument is everything this gu is but don't have the lega baggage. >> you just described a lot of people who are weak of moral character, all from differen displays that we see those who rushed to defend donald trump before they see what the charges in th indictment might be if wha happens also defending someone who clearly, we know, paid hus money to someone he had relationship with and ligh about it those are the ones that have a weakness in back of t...