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Party, bill clinton was at war with the democratic senate. today democrats are passing key legislation with unanimous votes. so i think it's the press trying to create some drama, trying to create some conflict, where it just doesn't really exist. >> yeah, and it's a little frustrating. jason, you definitely know this. sometimes it feels like these fights really just live on twitter. i mean, i get so much of, you know, you're a pawn for the establishment or you're a hard core bernie bro. it's just dumb. i tell you how i feel every week, jason tells you how he feels. i'm for the party that empo...

Can him in a race for long time. >> right. he has money and he has infrastructure that carries over for him from 2016. i think the question is whether or not he and his campaign staff are ready to address some of the challenges they had in 2016, mainly with african-american voters and whether they've put a plan in place to address those voters. and the question of the field more broadly. a very different field than the one he was in before. and the question is in entering the race, do the hard core bernie supporters skr a chance to support him if he wins the nomination, that's one thing. does ...

Constant source of funding that can him in a race for long time. >> right. he has money and he has infrastructure that carries over for him from 2016. i think the question is whether or not he and his campaign staff are ready to address some of the challenges they had in 2016, mainly with african-american voters and whether they've put a plan in place to address those voters. and the question of the field more broadly. a very different field than the one he was in before. and the question is in entering the race, do the hard core bernie supporters skr a chance to support him if he wins the nom...

Where bernie had this big advantage against hillary clinton, not just on the way he scheduled himself but also the way he raised money. >> that's right. this field is obviously much different than he had in 2016. if you want to look at just what your point was, the small dollar recurring donations, as he kept saying, $27 was the average, he has by far the biggest fundraising base of anyone in this 2020 field, twice or three times as many small dollars. he'll have to get those people back on board. now they have obviously many more choices. the one thing i'm struck with, particularly in new ham...