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Myself. did he give any answers remotely satisfying? >> i don't think so, to be fair, i don't think anything that he said could be satisfying and this is pretty frightening stuff and the cdc is supposed to be the best in the world. he focused on this idea that there was a lax culture with regard to safety because the scientists have been around for so long and they're just more comfortable with the viruses and become more careless with it and i'll tell you, jake, that is not what the folks wanted to hear on the hill. take a listen to this. >> i have to think what in heaven's name would go thro...

Name would go through the mind of a scientist thinking a ziploc bag is enough to protect someone from anthrax. >> many of the issues that are mentioned in the findings relate to what was done with the material that was believed to have been inactivated. the core error there was the failure to -- >> but dr. frieden, this is like saying, i didn't know the gun was loaded but somebody got shot. you should always assume it is. for someone to say, i didn't think the anthrax was live isn't acceptable. >> it's important to put that into context because what he's talking about there is, they put those ...