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Great speed, with great swiftness in order to get things done. before the mood of the country turned to something else. it's interesting. if you look at 1968, mrs. johnson, lady bird johnson, wrote in her diary, there are so many people across this country who are asking what is happening to us. president johnson felt that as well, and that's when he moved on gun control. and i think, again, that if president obama wanted to use this moment he must do so i think with great swiftness. >> can i just ask you about the lbj library, which i understand opened yesterday, reopened after a big old reno...

Lbj's skill, would it be worth much on domestic policy? >> well, there's no doubt that washington has changed since the days of lyndon johnson. we were about to unveil a $10 million redesign to our core exhibit on president johnson. front and center in that exhibit are the phone conversations of lbj doing the business of his presidency. and you can hear the facility with which he reached across the aisle. but i think if lbj were in office at any point during our history, he would have gotten things done. he was a master psychologist and he knew what made people tick. he knew how to get people ...