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An attack on the core functions of government. i get if you're a conservative and you're saying, i don't know, government shouldn't be mandating what's taught in classrooms, or government is too intrusive in our economic life, that's standard conservatism. when you're going after what a core function of government is, which is public safety, right, a core constitutional function, then you're talking about a very different kind of republican party and what you're saying is exactly right. this plays into the russian agenda because what russia really wants to do is sow profound distrust among ame...

Roads. the alternative iseo polls. the federal government is only willing to put about $200 billion into this $1.5 trillion infrastructure programs of the question is where's the rest of the money going to come from? what the states have been doing is selling roads to the private sector and put on whopping tolls. >> tucker: why do we have government, is it to run diversity seminars and retirement for federal employees? it's to defend the borders, to keep the t visigoths at bay into pay for roads. that's a core function of governments, when did that become an extra add-on -- do you know what i ...

I'm saying that's where we get the money from. >> tucker: can we start at the beginning, paving the roads is not a core function but the core function of going back to rome of the government. now they're telling us they're going to sell it to a private equity group who is going to shaft you or make rural america pay more. >> it's as old as the country, towns and villages couldn't put the road up they would have a small syndicates of farmers and artisans who would pay for the roads because they wanted to get products to market, we had the turnpike. they all went bust. >> tucker: if you work bac...

>> tucker: can we start at the beginning which is to pave the roads is not just a core function, it's the core function going back to rome of a government to another telling us, we either sell it to some private equity group is going to shaft you or we have to make rural america pay more. when we get these choices? >> back in the early days of the republic, the towns and villages couldn't put roads up, so they would have small syndicates of farmers and artisans who would pay for the roads because they wanted to get their products to the market and then they would charge tolls. a lot of the tur...

Environmental policy, in immigration policy. i mean, this is where the executive gets a lot of blow back from people who say accurately you can't win it legislatively, use what power you have that's unchecked to try to chip away at it. i think there's no question. that's what the president is trying to do here, as jeffrey says, when he has to chance to name his own director, he will name somebody that will walk in and say i don't want the core function of this agency to prevail. i think to take this one step further, the bigger problem here is what does the government agree about what governme...