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Government shutdown and the border security debate. i have to point on the intelligence issue regarding the president's intelligence briefings, i interviewed him a couple months ago in the oval office. one thing he said really stuck out to my colleague, josh dawsey and i. he said, look, i have a gut, my gut tells me a lot more than anybody else's brain can tell me. that's how he views the advice he's getting from within the government and within the administration including from his own political appointees. he has incredible faith in his own beliefs and own core instincts. >> robert costa, yo...

I have to point on the intelligence issue regarding the president's intelligence briefings, i interviewed him a couple months ago in the oval office. one thing he said really stuck out to my colleague, josh dawsey and i. he said, look, i have a gut, my gut tells me a lot more than anybody else's brain can tell me. that's how he views the advice he's getting from within the government and within the administration including from his own political appointees. he has incredible faith in his own beliefs and own core instincts. >> robert costa, you are always talking to the hill so it's in that spi...

Border security debate. i just have to point out on that intelligence issue regarding the president's intelligence briefings, i interviewed him a couple months ago in the oval office. and one thing he said really stuck out to my colleague, josh dawsey and i. and it is that, he said, look, i have a gut, my gut tells me a lot more than anybody else's brain can tell me. that's how he views the advice he's getting from within the government and within the administration including from his own political appointees. he has incredible faith in his own beliefs and own core instincts. >> robert costa, ...

Dividing to reverse himself in the initial criticism. it was after outcry from fox news hosts in the morning who said he would weak if he was not following through on his promises to supporters. many of the president's core instincts are always to make sure he keeps his political base with him. it is not necessarily to broaden the base or to always have a message of inclusion that brings new people into the tent. it is to keep everyone in the tent and stay in the tent. that's what you are seeing here. you are seeing a position that's very popular among trump supporters, and he's holding it. >>...

It's trump's core instincts in his gut. >> all right. willy. >> what about the idea that bann bannon, so how does that sound to donald trump? >> i don't know. as we says a couple months ago, oh, did would, it's always i, i, i. >> you remember at the president trump press conference, president trump was pretty icy when asked about steve bannon, he called him "mr. bannon" and he said, quote, we'll see what happens. >> you're fired. >> jonathan ax -- john doud