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Authored about this -- about the disaster. one was a federal report. one was a state report. one was an independent report commissioned by joe manchin, governor of west virginia at the time. all three of the reports reached the same conclusion. "charleston daily mail" said core ventilation, dangerous amounts of coal dust in a corporate atmosphere that valued profit over safety. that's what those reports concluded was the root cause of this disaster. you're saying, no, it's natural gas. why should we believe you over what three reports are saying? >> simply put because the chemistry says it was...

>> now, i guess the issue i would take with that, there have been three different reports authored about this -- about the disaster. one was a federal report. one was a state report. one was an independent report commissioned by joe manchin, governor of west virginia at the time. all three of the reports reached the same conclusion. "charleston daily mail" said core ventilation, dangerous amounts of coal dust in a corporate atmosphere that valued profit over safety. that's what those reports concluded was the root cause of this disaster. you're saying, no, it's natural gas. why should we belie...

One was a state report. one was an independent report commissioned by joe manchin, governor of west virginia at the time. all three of the reports reached the same conclusion. "charleston daily mail" said core ventilation, dangerous amounts of coal dust in a corporate atmosphere that valued profit over safety. that's what those reports concluded was the root cause of this disaster. you're saying, no, it's natural gas. why should we believe you over what three reports are saying? >> simply put because the chemistry says it was natural gas. and all those reports ignore thad fact. the government'...