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>> tucker: we're trying to tell immigrants that law and order is a core american value which is a core western value. >> yes. >> tucker: what the is message that we send with, say, sanctuary cities or the dreamers. aren't we telling them in the clearest possible terms that when it's politically inexpedient we are ignoring the law. that's the message we are sending newest immigrants you have the right to be here illegally. that's the law and order you hope to inculcate in our immigrant population? >> i don't see it as the left. i'm listening to you because when i hear from the chamber of commer...

Order is a core american value which is a core western value. >> yes. >> tucker: what the is message that we send with, say, sanctuary cities or the dreamers. aren't we telling them in the clearest possible terms that when it's politically inexpedient we are ignoring the law. that's the message we are sending newest immigrants you have the right to be here illegally. that's the law and order you hope to inculcate in our immigrant population? >> i don't see it as the left. i'm listening to you because when i hear from the chamber of commerce. when i hear from the sheriff's. >> tucker: they are ...