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Something that gave you a high ranking? >> not only a murderer but killed a law enforcement officer. so, yes, yes that definitely added to it. obviously, this particular escape, i don't think believe this was his first escape either. this guy does have quite a reputation. >> we do know that this guy has quite a reputation. >> exactly. >> what do you think the lessons are going to be from this whole escape? do you think that the problems that we saw at this correction facility are systemic throughout many in the united states right now? >> i don't know about systemic. you know, when you have a ...

In solitary confinement indefinitely, can you? >> well, yes, you can. actually, he'll probably be in a high-powered medical facility for anywhere from six months to a year rehabilitating from his wounds. then he'll be, of course, moved into a maximum-security facility where he can be housed for as long as necessary. pelican bay, federal corrections facilities all over the country house these types of inmates for indefinite periods of time. >> okay, i want to read you something that's just coming over right now. reported to nbc news. according to multiple sources familiar with the investigation...

Top drawer. >> bergen county jail's drug rehabilitation center opened in 1995. it was the first of its kind inside a corrections facility in the state of new jersey. >> inspection for lockers. >> though nearing retirement officer lopez has been a fixture in the center for the past eight years supervising the hundreds of men who pass through it. >> i don't want no mice in here. i don't like mice. i have to live in here too. i could have been a damn good drug dealer. i could have been a damn good drug user. but for some reason, i chose the right road. >> recently, the center has seen heroin make...

Top drawer. >> bergen county jail's drug rehabilitation center opened in 1995. it was the first of its kind inside a corrections facility in the state of new jersey. >> inspection for lockers. >> though nearing retirement officer lopez has been a fixture in the center for the past eight years supervising the hundreds of men who pass through it. >> i don't want no mice in here. i don't like mice. i have to live in here too. i could have been a damn good drug dealer. i could have been a damn good drug user. but for some reason, i chose the right road. >> recently, the center has seen heroin make...

Cabinet inspection. >> top drawer. >> bergen county jail's drug rehabilitation center opened in 1995. it was the first of its kind inside of a corrections facility in the state of new jersey. >> by lockers, inspection for lockers. >> nearing retirement, officer lopez has been a fixture in the center for the past eight years, supervising hundreds of men who have passed through. >> i don't like mice. i have to live in here too for eight hours. i could easily have been one of these guys. i could have been a good drug dealer or drug user, but for some reason i chose the right road. >> recently the...