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To do anything to bring them back. >> i would start offering immunity to someone really close to lois lerner. that's what i would do. and pull that capitol hill. start putting immunity to people around her. >> you think you have to start investigating or interviewing at least the guys who were working on the computers. the it guys. what interest do they have in lying about this? hard drives occasionally crash but they are usually backed up on the server. and the idea that these emails weren't saved somewhere, thousands of them, it's just hard to believe. i think you are going to have a real fo...

Way, is there anyone else's hard drive that is missing? is there anyone else's emails that we're going to have trouble recovering of the 80 people we are investigating at the irs? only then did the irs commissioner find out there were six other people's hard drives that had been damaged and unrecoverable. so i would think if i were running the investigation, those would be natural follow-up questions you would ask. i think it's gross inat the expense. >> i guess i mean what are the odds that the key time period for the key person, that's what i keep going back to. >> it's unbelievable. >> that...

It is not happen chance when she was giving these directives and sending these emails that somehow they have now disappeared. >> do you think she deliberately did something -- someone deliberately did something to destroy these emails. >> i think somebody deliberately destroyed the evidence that points to who committed all these crimes. >> and so special prosecutor, you have asked the doj for one. that's not happening, right? >> absolutely. i don't know why -- look, as members of congress, we don't have the capability or the expertise or the financial wherewithal to spend, you know, 80 hours a...

Can destroy your life with an audit and say you have to have seven years of your records and your receipts and they can't keep their email for six months? that's just outrageous. so had you a congressman today from texas introduce a bill just to joke around with these guys saying, you know, should be american citizens, lose emails dog eat dog receipts that should be a defense against the irs. so, it didn't look good today. >> is there a check made in the sense of the irs might have literally won this round because they don't have the evidence and they say it was destroyed before anyone knew it...

>> to say this is the most corrupt irs in history ignores a lot of history and seems to me again is a classic overreaction to a serious problem which we are dealing with seriously. [ male announcer ] hands were made for playing.