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Ukraine, not a corrupt russian-controlled ukraine. the only person who is pushing against that right now is donald trump. if he were doing that for some legitimate public interest, he'd have the right to do that, but if he's doing it for a corrupt interest, if he's doing it to help his political campaign or his personal interests, that's not legitimate. now, trump says i'm doing it for legit interest. i'm doing it to fight corruption. come on. donald trump cares as much about stopping corruption in ukraine as marlboro stops about stopping cancer. that doesn't pass the laugh test. it is not a l...

It's not a legitimate interest, it's a corrupt one. >> there's one aspect i thought ambassador sodenberg was interesting, the way he phrased it, we've been talking about manufacturing dirt on a political opponent, but vindman put it wasn't in terms as meddling in the election, but it was just improper to have a foreign government set its sights on an american citizen. if an american citizen committed some intraction that's a problem for american law enforcement but of course there's no predicate for investigation. what do you think about that framing? >> first of all vindman was an incredible ...

Quid pro quo. >> it was a strong arm. the president will be impeached. >> announcer: this is "new day" with alisyn camerota and john berman. we want to welcome our viewers around the world and the united states. this is "new day." it is monday, october 14th. john avalon joins us. it's a holiday for a lot of people. not for us. >> not for us. >> we're following two major stoirs. congress returns from a two-week recess today and democrats plan to run -- the president's thill will testify. gord gordon sondland will testify. according to "the washington post," he is expected to tell lawmakers th...

The president's response is just to say the word corruption over and over again. corruption, corruption, corruption, corruption, corruption, corruption, all i care about is corruption. i'm here to talk about corruption. i'm not corrupt, you're corrupt. impeach me? impeach adam schiff. he's the corrupt one. all i care about is corruption. all these people coming after me, they are corruption. when it comes to the accusation he has been flinging against vice president joe biden, the broader circumstance there is that joe biden as vice president was the american government's point person working ...

Because the president has now been caught for that. now that there's no question by the president's own admission, by the evidence provided by the white house, by one, looks like two whistle-blowers who appear to have nailed him for doing that, now that the president is being impeached for doing that, the president's response is just to say the word corruption over and over again. corruption, corruption, corruption, corruption, corruption, corruption, all i care about is corruption. i'm here to talk about corruption. i'm not corrupt, you're corrupt. impeach me? impeach adam schiff. he's the co...