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Until they get a clear picture what their tax structure is going to look like, they are not going to do it. megyn: bernanke tried to assuage some concerns when it comes to interest rates. he was say can this is one of the reasons where we are going to keep interest rates at the level they are at for several more years as we promised. >> reporter: if they could lower them to negative they would, but they can't. but the trick here is give businesses the confidence to start buying equipment and hiring people again. until they do that you will see an elevated unemployment rate. megyn: there is hea...

They don't leave me much of a choice. megyn: your thoughts, christopher? >> after what's happened in wisconsin, any union member who thinks the republican party standser to them has a serious problem. their $5 a month in union dues is not going to solve. megyn: he should enjoy the fact that his dollars are supporting the democrats. >> he has an opportunity to vote the union leadership out if he doesn't believe they stand for him. megyn: chris plant, as i understand the law, he actually has a right to do more than that. he has a right to object to his money being used to support a political can...

To political purposes i greatly oppose. >> my union was using my union dues to push a political agenda i oppose. >> do workers have a right to mow more about what it's being used for and whether it has to be taken from them? >> reporter: the states regulate part of them. in 277 of them unions can automatically subtract money from workers' paychecks whether they join or not. but the supreme court has ruled that workers who have money taken from their checks also have the right to keep the union from spending it on anything other than collective bargaining such as political campaigns. democrats ...

Your ts and hire lawyers to get your regulations in. i enjoy the general zod look today. megyn: you didn't mean it. there was an audible look in the studio. christopher, you raise an interesting points. i want to ask whether this is an example of overreach or is it an attempt to protect union members who don't want their money messed with politically for causes they don't like, like this guy back in 2010. >> i'm willing to have the money put aside into an organization we both can agree on and that's where my union dues is filtered to. but not to tease other outfits. when my union won't even re...

This issue. it seems clear union workers are supposed to have the option to opt out to make sure their dues don't go towards political causes with which they disagree. but there is a real question, that's what congress and issa are look into. whether the unions are complying with the law and whether there is a little strong arming going on. chris plants, what say you? >> if there are laws in place they are not being enforced. nobody has put any attention to them. they have been ignored. $1.1 billion. and every study shows the union dollars go 95% to democrats and the rest go to rinos in the po...