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welcome to hardtalk. jonathan shapiro, better known by the pen name zapiro, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. well, it's a great pleasure to meet you, and i want to begin with something you said a few years ago. you said, "moral outrage is what drives a cartoonist." you've been at this cartooning for pretty much four decades. can you maintain outrage for four decades? you can. laughter when i was doing five or six cartoons a week, i would sometimes wonder what the hell i'm going to do today, and you wake up in the morning and the news — itjust keeps coming. it would happen to cartoon...

jonathan shapiro, better known by the pen name zapiro, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. well, it's a great pleasure to meet you, and i want to begin with something you said a few years ago. you said, "moral outrage is what drives a cartoonist." you've been at this cartooning for pretty much four decades. can you maintain outrage for four decades? you can. laughter when i was doing five or six cartoons a week, i would sometimes wonder what the hell i'm going to do today, and you wake up in the morning and the news — itjust keeps coming. it would happen to cartoonists everywhere in th...

zikomo! [applause] >> welcome to the beat with ari melber. we have a big show for you tonight, prosecutor ronaldo murat he will join me as we look at jack smith's big coup case against donald trump, which faces a key appeal in january. how will smith draw on his past experience? that's where we begin tonight. he's a tough prosecutor with a long record. he's led difficult and victorious cases, including, the prosecution of new york police officer, justin vulpy, who tortured abner lima, a notorious case, which resulted in a 30-year prison sentence, unheard of for a prosecutor at the ti...

to laugh at itself? jonathan shapiro, better known by the pen name zapiro, welcome to hardtalk. thank you. well, it's a great pleasure to meet you, and i want to begin with something you said a few years ago. you said, "moral outrage is what drives a cartoonist." you've been at this cartooning for pretty much four decades. can you maintain outrage for four decades? you can. laughter when i was doing five or six cartoons a week, i would sometimes wonder what the hell i'm going to do today, and you wake up in the morning and the news — itjust keeps coming. it would happen to cartooni...

today isjonathan shapiro, best known by his pen name zapiro. he is south africa's most prominent and controversial political cartoonist. so amid all of its troubles, is south africa able to laugh at itself? jonathan shapiro, better known by your pen name zapiro, welcome to hardtalk. it is a great pleasure to meet you and i want to begin with something you said a few years ago, you said moral outrage is what drives a cartoonist. you have been at this cartooning for four decades. can you maintain outrage forfour four decades. can you maintain outrage for four decades? you can. outrage ...