Detailed text transcripts for TV channel - MSNBC - 20130218:17:45:00
Fair elections now act and other state level reforms, including new york state or new york city, rather, have those kind of programs that basically take the millionaires out of giving directly to candidates, and that reduces corruption. they may be able to spend on their own voice, maybe their movies, make their ads, but if we don't have people flying on planes together and feeling that they owe someone hundreds of thousands of dollars for bundling, there's a lot less of that second door, the corruption door, and i think that's where the tangible action can be. >> larry, we -- there are -- the...