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Typical number for these guys to have. when i heard the 1.6 million, i went, wow, that's a hell of a contract. it was over five years, so it'sç 20 or 25 grand a month. certainly nothing to sneeze at. in this town it's nothing na stops somebody. >> no one up here is sneezing at it. >> committee reclaim our sense of outrage. the whole project is this is so accustomed to it it, and the corruption is so endemic and widespread. >> what was the corruption? i don't understand the corruption part. i know jack abramoff said it, but i'm lost. >> this is a government sponsored enterprise. >> no, it wasn...

They have not even gotten to the corruption part, right? there's part of it they haven't begun to consider, eleven days later. >> wire fraud i think. >> shepard: that's right. where are we? what does this mean? >> look, you know, i don't necessarily know that it's good for the protection or the defense but we're dealing with a 24-count indictment. fairly sophisticated charges, racketeering, wire fraud, extortion, bribery. the stuff law school books are made up. you take 12 jurors and make them sit through a multi-week trial, 120 pages of jury instructions and say figure it out. it's not uncomm...