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In which you could hear el chapo making major drug deals. that was huge. the second biggest witness for the prosecution had to be his bodyguard. he testified. he was the last within to testify for the prosecution. he said he saw el chapo kill three people and buried one alive. that was major testimony at the end. that was the last thing the jury was left with before they went in to deliberate. thanks, bryan. for more on this, let s bring in randy zellen, a former defense attorney. thank you for coming in. derek, we re talking about how much evidence the prosecution came forward with. they called in closing arguments what they had an avalanche of evidence. that is an understatement, which included scorching witness testimony, providing gruesome ....
Details of killings and drug smuggling and what have you. did you see even the slightest chance for him not to be found guilty? actually, i want to commend the jury for doing a professional job and the prosecutors in the eastern district of new york. they did a great job. a lot of evidence. hundreds of thousands of pages of documents. witnesses testifying. i want to commend the united states dea, the fbi, the homeland security investigations, atf, u.s. marshals, cbp and our brave warriors on the ground in mexico, the marines. kudos to them and kudos to the jurors. randy, if you were selected to be a juror on this trial, your life, you re really honestly thinking your life could be put at risk here considering who you re going to put in jail, in prison the rest of your life. what kind of witness protection is there. is there? they were partially ....
Because that s what they are. one would hope this sends a message to other drug lords and to mexico and in the midst of our immigration debate that continues to steam on in washington. defense attorneys, randy, slammed the government s case. they basically said that those cooperating witnesses were doing it to save their own hides. they told jurors thursday, i believe, that the cooperating witnesses lied to save themselves. what do you make,first of all. of the defense s argument that guzman was a scapegoat for these witnesses? if you think about it, what possible other defense could do you have? i mean, you got caught digging a hole under a tunnel and escaping from prison more than once. yeah. you re kind of you you have the tried and true defense of attacking cooperators. yes, cooperators have every ....
Case of entrapment and another tweet he says he was considering withdrawing his guilty plea because he believed he was framed. joining us now to discuss, defense attorney randy zellen. if mueller is reading pop dop loups tweets, he must be reading the president s. where to begin? you have mr. papadopoulos saying i lied. now i lied about lying, so do they cancel each other out? that means i told the truth. you have dr. corsi who basically is more or less admitting he lied when he met with the special counsel and testified to the grand jury. because he was expecting an indictment. exactly. now you have mr. stone, he protests too much, and he s under a tremendous amount of pressure, so he must be lying that he lied. it really it s fascinating. like you said, where do you ....
Don t innocent people protest the accusations? and of course as a defense attorney, i remind everyone, the smartest thing you can do as an innocent person is keep your mouth shut. and what s happening here is that the president is teaching us that i m right. imagine, if you will and your viewers imagine for a moment if the president never tweeted, never spoke and simply carried on the business of being the president, let the investigation do its thing, let white house counsel and everybody else surrounding him, his experts, do their thing and simply focused in on running the country and maybe saying a kind word about senator mccain. imagine how different all of this would feel. so i would respectfully submit to you, it s really the opposite. you almost can t win when you are innocent. do you open your mouth and run the risk of getting jammed up because you are always one word away from saying the wrong thing? or do you keep your mouth shut ....