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Welcome to both of you. tobias ellwood, why do you say we need to re—engage and also that the uk should reopen its embassy in kabul? you summarised the very difficult challenges that lay ahead but in my visit, i was astonished with the profound change in complexion that i saw from a security perspective, certainly a corruption perspective, former president ashraf ghani's government, but also for trade as well. i'm not saying these things have not disappeared, i'm saying this war—torn nation has not experienced relative peace like this i think since the 1970s and that poses a very big quest...

Articulate that. your theory of the case is a desperate indebt spiraling downward president would be a dangerous from a corruption perspective or foreign influence perspective because they might be desperate to do whatever they can to get gifts or money to stay afloat. >> as an american you'd want to know that. >> i think that's fair to say, sure. >> if the president is trying to pay off a loan on friday, what will he do if he is in that zprags. >> we looked at the businesses i can't tell if you the whole business is making or losing money but a lot of the businesses are doing poorly. some shu...

With his business. >> have i never heard you articulate that your theory of the case is a desperate indebt spiraling downward president would be dangerous from a corruption perspective or a foreign influence perspective because they might be desperate to do whatever they can to get loans or gifts or money to stay afloat. >> as an american, you would want to know that, right? >> yes. i think that's fair to say. sure, yeah. >> is the president trying to pay off a loan on friday? what will he do if he is in that kind of desperation. we've looked a at lot of his businesses. i still can't tell you ...