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Rather. it's tough. >> jessica>> lawrence: the immin policy when it comes to the legal -- many times goes through the cartel. you don't get across the border unless you pay a fee to the cartel. there is a drug policy and an immigration policy that essentially regulates themselves. the best way to attack them is through their money. going very hard after them. mexico has a corruption problem. part of the reason why the cartel is able to flourish is because people that are supposed to be leaders, officers, people that are supposedly part of the military. until we crack down on that we won't be a...

Meme-making anti-democratic online personas. these pro-trump online engines. so that part is in place again, just exactly like it was before. i mean, why wouldn't the russians do it again, right? it's not like they got in trouble for doing it the first time. and we've got this president who was in the middle of impeachment proceedings, like he did in 2016. he wasn't under impeachment proceedings then, but we had this sort of scandal-ridden candidate in 2016 who was very busy in 2016 trying to make it seem like the other side had the scandals. now he's the president of the united states, not on...

Was in the middle of impeachment proceedings, like he did in 2016. he wasn't under impeachment proceedings then, but we had this sort of scandal-ridden candidate in 2016 who was very busy in 2016 trying to make it seem like the other side had the scandals. now he's the president of the united states, not only facing scandals, but impeachment proceedings and similarly, he's running the same play. he's trying to say, it's the democrats who have the ones with all the big scandal to contend with, particularly scandals involving foreign countries and interfering in the elections, right? he keeps sa...

Him. i have to ask how you feel about the accusation of vice president biden having been sort of spotted alongside the notoriously corrupt ukrainian oil and gas industry and that that being a reason to call him -- to say he's the one that has corruption problem here. >> well, you've hit the nail on the head. this is really a sort of orwellian inversion of reality where black is white and white is black. in fact, vice president biden in 2014, 2015 after the revolution of dignity in ukraine was pushing for ukrainian reformers to be able to fight corruption and to take on those entrenched interes...

From the president's allies is they are using the word corruption as both a shield and a sword, denying that it applies to the president's behavior, saying he's within his rights in accusing everybody from vice president biden to his accusers in the congress, to the media who's talking about it, calling everybody else corrupt trying to take the meaning out of that word so it no longer lands with such a sting when applied to him. i have to ask how you feel about the accusation of vice president biden having been sort of spotted alongside the notoriously corrupt ukrainian oil and gas industry an...