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One was that, you know, that corruption side of it, that was the difference for me. and that's why i felt it was important to stress it. and even, you clearly feel that very passionately, even though that fifa investigation has not found that the votes were sold, and even though that qatar says throughout it's not done anything wrong. well, i think you just said it there, didn't you? it was a fifa investigation. and finally, just one question about where the line is on a sporting event you would be willing to cover. i remember a few years ago a bbc cricket reporter, pat murphy, of course, you'...

But let's be honest, gary, i've never seen you deliver a monologue like that at the start of some coverage. you weren't smiling. the tone of it was much more serious than anything i've seen you do before. yeah, i think i was there in the room in 2010 and it stunk at the time. and i think i was, spoken out. it was a decision by obviously everyone in bbc sport. these things are thought through a lot. it wasn'tjust me. that's for sure. not at all. so, yes, it was a little bit different, because the difference is not necessarily the human rights. and i think, you know, every country has different ...

But let's be honest, gary, i've never seen you deliver a monologue like that at the start of some coverage. you weren't smiling. the tone of it was much more serious than anything i've seen you do before. yeah, i think i was there in the room in 2010 and it stunk at the time. and i think i was, spoken out. it was a decision by obviously everyone in bbc sport. these things are thought through a lot. it wasn'tjust me. that's for sure. not at all. so, yes, it was a little bit different, because the difference is not necessarily the human rights. and i think, you know, every country has different ...

All these cyber criminals who are acting really aggressively against the united states. i wonder if we need to rethink the paradigm with russia, given he's not getting, he's not backing down at all of he's getting worse. >> i think we do. i think it is right for president biden to meet with president putin. we always met with soviet leaders back in the day, after all, to see where we can cooperate. i do think we have to get out of this reaction that we're in. this tit for tat. they do something and we respond proportionately. i think we need a grand strategy for deterring putin that does not j...

Track at about 27 because dad takes train it is different when you're using again your dad p taxpayer i am where i am because of my father i make no bones about it.e but we didn't do that under the guys of, you know, i'm a blue collar -- youuun know, hardworking public servant. it is nonsense if i did those things todayay with my father as president, the media qowld have a field day. if i got thrown out of navy for using cocaine, the media qowld have a field day we can go into the personal stuff even further i would rather not because -- ei think the business, you know, corruption side is fran...