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Made a criminal referral to the justice department. >> laura: it shouldn't matthew axelrod, i might've missed his testimony, shouldn't he be called to testify on capitol hill about this? if that's actually how it went down? >> sure. i don't doubt that there are a number of officials. i don't believe axelrod made that telephone call on his own. i don't doubt that he didn't discuss the matter with sally yates. i don't doubt that there are emails and other text communications surrounding the call because that me just say this. i worked 35 years and ran the corruption squad for a number of those y...

Support. >> shouldn't axel rod be called to testify about this? if that is how it within down? >> sure. i don't doubt there are a number of i don't believe he made that -- phone call on his own. i don't doubt we did not discuss the matter. i don't doubt there are e mails and other texts surrounding the call because i will say this, i worked 35 years and ran the corruption squad for a number of years. nobody made a phone call to me attempt to get us influence in investigation that was already opened predicated and had much you know was valid. this is in the heat of the campaign this offing 2016...

Phone call in august of 2016. he claimed he pushed back hard against someone who seemed to be pressuring the fbi to squash a probe in the clinton foundation discuss this with former fbi agent in sacramento, california, head of the corruption task force in sacramento? let's talk where we are here. i had you on radio i had to enviolet you on tv. is this normal for an fbi principle deputy to call up the fbi and say, kind of slow walk this of the clinton foundation this is how it went down. >> thanks, laura. yes, i ran corruption squad in

So o, when it comes to these warrants that led to these raids on manafort, those weren't just out of the special counsel's office. they were signed off in the u.s. attorney's office in the eastern district of virginia with advice from the fbi's international corruption squad, again, totally separate and apart from the special counsel's office. so out of all the political anxiety around robert mueller potentially being fired or what the president could do to try to make the special counsel's office go away, the special counsel's team has already rooted their investigation in all these other par...

Just bad dealing? >> i see we are at a place in time that has not occurred before. and i do believe the american public is going to deserve we conduct a fair, impartial but thorough investigation. as we did in california. i ran the corruption squad here in sacramento. it's the nation's most of populace state, the largest state. we were able to overcome any and all problems with respect to corrupt officials. i have no doubt that we can conduct and get to the bottom story. judge jeanine: who is doing the investigation of the investigators? >> that's the question here. we have to look at mccabe, ...