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Intervention in the case of navy s.e.a.l. eddy gallagher who was facing demotion after he was convicted with posing with the corpse of an isis fighter. arguing it was, quote, a reminder that the president has very little understanding of what it means to be in the military, to fight ethically or to be governed by a uniform set of rules and practices. joining me now, cory shocky, deputy director general at the international institute for strategic sud december, worked for the nsc and state department under george w. bush. and matt welsh from reason magazine. cory, how is it to hear this strong ...

Allegedly used to attack two persian tankers in the gulf, iran denying they were behind the attacks. the president tweeting, the u.s. request for iran is very simple, no nuclear weapons. with me gayle roman, and cory shocky. ladies, thanks to both of you. and gayle, let me start with you because this is what president trump has said about iran to our own chuck todd just yesterday. >> i'm not looking for war, and if there is it will be obliteration like you've never seen before but i'm not looking to do that. but you can't have a nuclear weapon. you want to talk, good, otherwise you're going to...

Right now. david gergen, cory shocky who has known secretary mattis for a decade. great to see you all thank you so much for being here. david, the president faced a lot of criticism for not visiting troops until now in a combat zone, since becoming commander in chief, obviously. one part of that criticism was that he's making these policy decisions without seeing it firsthand. so does this trip quiet that criticism? >> i think it will quiet some of it, not all. some of the critics will carp that he only stayed on the ground three hours. but overall i think the president deserves credit for go...

The new prime minister is not convinced that isis is defeated as his predecessor was. they are conducting about a strike or two per week on isis targets in iraq. so there was a lot of ground that he could have covered with iraqi leaders and i'm sorry that didn't happen. >> i want to ask you more about that but just a second. cory, while the president was on the ground he said this. this is sticking out to a lot of people. jessica dean was noting it earlier. he said the united states can't continue to be the policeman of the world. we are spread all over the world, we're in countries most peopl...

Why. it turned into something of a phone call. but the reason offered according to the iraqis was that it was due to -- here's what the statement said. a variation of views. why wasn't this ironed out ahead of time and how big of a deal is this? >> i worked for two years at the state department, i can't figure that diplo speak out. i do think it was a missed opportunity for the two to get together and talk because iraq very much still is in this fight. cory is right. it isn't just about iraq, there are 74 countries involved in this coalition and his decision to pull out really caught everybody...